In the words of a Ukrainian at the protest:
"We want to be free from dictatorship, to be free from politicians ..."
This is how the surveillance thug state always ends, when we inculcate the vicious notion that individuals are mere servants of the state, their property and lives to be redistributed at the whim of politicians and bureaucrats. It ends, always, in bloodshed. Warning, this is an horrific clip of Ukrainian government snipers killing unarmed protestors last night (New Zealand time):
By the way, here's the socialist utopia of Venezuela at the moment, yet a further example of how Marxism
ends only in poverty and dictatorship:
And you bet in the tax surveillance state of New Zealand the ethic you exist only for the state, to have your life sacrificed on the bloodied altar of the common good, reigns. You have no rights against the tax take, no right to be left alone by it - even though you have harmed no one - and you have no privacy from the redistributionists: not one jot. We had a new Privacy Commissioner take up his role yesterday, begging the fact you only need a Privacy Commissioner after your privacy has been taken from you, which it thoroughly has. The job of that commissioner is a deflection overlaid on a joke: try complaining to the current incumbent next time IRD lifts all your financial data from your bank; you'll very soon see how ineffectual and pointless he is.
And though this doesn't sound related, you can bet it surely is; pretty soon sugar is going to be taxed, then probably banned, and all sorts of fats. Wake up and smell the coffee, before that is banned or taxed out of reach also. I don't understand how there isn't a revolution, here, when even our diets have become a plaything of the state (or at least its food fascist disciples at the University of Otago).
I am owned. You are owned. We are all prisoners of each others minds.
You know mate that video was actually produced by an "NGO" based in New Jersey, funded by whom do you suppose?
ReplyDeleteIn truth Ukraine is bankrupt and the IMF came up with a plan that would reduce Ukraine's sovereignty and Putin gave the Ukrainian Government a way out of having to be subservient to the IMF and western bankers and that is when these current troubles actually started.
And my friend when the elected President of Ukraine tried to calm things by bringing key opposition leaders into the Government it was sabotaged from outside
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv7qy7jot30
Ukraine is on the brink, it may end up Balkanized the way Yugoslavia was in the 90s - it may end up being even more serious given the utter mediocrity of current Western leadership but let me tell you this some of the opposition "are not fighting for freedom" they are literally facists and these factions have zero interest in peaceful resolutions.
Oh, great that justifies slaughtering unarmed protestors then.
DeleteMy gripe is against the state in all it's current Big Brother guises Left and Right. Against the concept that individuals exist only to serve the whim of state. I know the EU is a socialist monster also, I know central banking has nothing to do with liassez faire economic freedom albeit, if you're getting shot at in the dictatorship of Ukraine, at the moment, even the limited freedom in the EU still looks pretty good I imagine.
The problem is a dearth of a freedom based philosophy anymore.
Come down out of your ivory tower -
Delete(1) Viktor Yanukovych was elected President in 2010 and if he wishes to remain President will have to face the voters again next year at which point they people will have the opportunity to replace him (if he stands) - that does not meet the definition of dictator and the legitimacy of his presidency is acknowledged by every nation on the planet as lawful and he represents the lawful authority in Ukraine, like it or not, like him or not
(2) "Oh, great that justifies slaughtering unarmed protestors then" phooey. the so called "protesters" are quite heavily armed which is why there a lots of dead policemen even as we speak.
That video is a slickly produced piece of American propaganda which uses words and images that press your buttons but are not the words of skinhead thugs from Galacia who make up a significant proportion of the so called "protesters".
I'll bet your historical knowledge of that part of the world could be written on the back of a postage stamp, in truth
I've been watching the coverage, the protestors are barely armed, whereas government snipers are killing indiscriminately, obviously unarmed protestors.
DeleteUkraine is a democracy like Putin's Russia is, yes?
Addendum, yes, I do know the history and context of that clip, however, none of that changes what she says.
DeleteMark
ReplyDeleteI suspect you have been subject to just one side of the story, and It's very likely the comment from Andrei is correct. Peter Hitchins, whose research I respect has this to say on the subject:
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2014/02/regime-or-government-demonstration-or-mob-who-whom-.html
Nope. See my reply to Andrei.
DeleteGet a grip. They aren't protestors, they're communists. Communists don't believe in individual "rights" so certainly don't deserve any. Think if a bunch of communists - Labour/Green activists, or Unionists, let's say the teacher's union, if they'd occupied the harbour bridge and the major roads around Auckland, and refused to move, and had fought off unarmed police and water cannon, and had got some firearms and had shot and killed a couple of cops and rather more civilians - how long until the Army was sent in to restore freedom for everyone else in Auckland?
ReplyDeleteI bet nowhere as long as Ukraine waited.
The fact is the country is choosing between self-determination, economic sovereignty, and yes lower taxes, individual rights, and a much less regulated, more flexible economic system under Putin --- or the open communism of the last communist mega-state, the European Union.
If you want to own a gun; drive a (petrol) car;, burn coal, oil, or gas; smoke, eat, drink, whatever you want; and live free from massive intrusive surveillance you are objectively more free in Russia than in NZ or especially the EU!
Of course middle-class bureaucrats in the capital are sad they won't live out their years of unproductive busibodying mostly paid for by Germany companies! Outside Kiev, the rest of the country is proud of the democratic choice they made, a choice for towards self-sufficiency of industry, mining, construction and agriculture with access to the massive Russian market - rather than the nanny-communism of the EU.
Here's a simple test: Ask yourself - who do Russel Norman, Jane Fonda & George Clooney support? then pick the other side
Your last sentence is straight line thinking.
DeleteThis blog makes plain I have no love for the collectivised EU, however, if your contention is juvenile and homophobic Putin's Russia is anything other than a thug state, where to speak out against him means death or labour camps, where he has slaughtered hundreds, probably thousands of 'terrorists' leading up to Sochi, then yes, I vehemently disagree with you.
And for me this post turns on one incontrovertible matter, per my comment today up on NBR, namely:
All that aside, a government that commands professional snipers to clinically murder unarmed protestors, on that alone, loses any mandate it has to rule, and those who made the command, with those who carried it out, should be tried and judged under the rule of law. I would even call, from the video clip, that particular action a war crime.
Evil means, and evil people, never justify ends.
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