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is quite okay, in the context he used it. As I commented to the NBR thread on this:
For the record, and despite I can't immediately see where I would have any common philosophical or political tenets to Hone (certainly not economic, as he believes in the free lunch) - unless he has self-determination in his contradictory mish-mash somewhere - but, for the purpose he used the word 'nigger', from its historical context, I thought it was quite apt. It conveyed precisely what he meant, and he was certainly deliberate in that. There was a great interview on one of the TV channels, where he was interviewed on this and he gave the derivation of his use of the word - more correctly, 'nigga' - from the stage production, Oklahoma, with reference to Key as a plantation owner, in a way that was both clever and witty.No one would dispute a novelist's right to use 'nigger/nigga’ for aesthetic effect, so why shouldn't a politician use it for political effect if it expresses, precisely, what he wants to convey?
The nonsense
confab over this is down to two reasons:
Firstly,
the average Kiwi’s preciousness and 'umbrage taking' which doesn’t allow them to understand a
principle anymore, and has turned too many of them into the humourless, humour Taliban. That and a childishness about using grown-up words.
Hi i would just like to say some of us can understand where Hone is coming from to why he used the word in the first place i see it as The Maori Party have lost focus on why they called themselves The Maori Party in the first place and yes you can all yell and scream at me for saying that but its all about money when it comes down to it as money dose make the world go round so get as much as you can while you can thats sad i say this as i grew up here watched the times go by and now i feel we are at a stage where who do we look to to run our country the next geniration of politics are not ready to take the reins as there are still to many old ones left calling the shot which is a shame i beleave the next geniration should step up and make a sound as they are the ones to lead next and as for what there is now hes about the best we have to offer at the moment but john Keys is my age group but hes not the future and its people of our age that are stopping the way for the young ones
ReplyDeleteBlimey, have you heard of full stops? :)
DeleteI disagree with you on a multitude of fronts, chiefly, I don't want my life led from Parliament, or by anyone. But regarding your opening, yes, my point is Hone's use of 'nigger', in context, expressed very clearly where he was coming from, and I'd rather have that than mealy mouthed correctness.
Well you must be in the wrong country as there will always be parliament always has been and if we were going to change where would we be then Parliament leds your life your kids life and your grand kids life nothing much you can do or say .What i like for Maori is we are getting our land back great things comes to those who wait.
DeleteWell, I'll keep waiting, and writing, toward the free classical liberal society, where race, gender, et al, have no sway over either of us, other than what we individually enjoy to pursue for our happiness, culturally, artistically, business-wise, whatever.
DeleteRegarding your comments about Parliament, you might be interested in my piece on what is wrong with it: the problem with the tyranny of the majority which is our social democracy.
And by the by, 'your' land back - and where current property rights are not abrogated, I've no particular problem with that: I defend property rights as the foundation of freedom - ... but 'your' land back, while you've lost the rights to your very life and volition to the will of the mob, is pointless. .... Um, just in case you're interested (are you), I advocate a constitutional minarchy.
Wow those are big word some of them i dont even no the meaning to but hay what i beleave in is that change is happening look around new zealand today in 10 years time it will be spot the maori getting our land back will set Maori apart from what will be a beta tomorrow for our next geniration and us as a people no longer having to listen Parliament the days of moari vs white is no longer in nz now its (What Country are you From)i can see numbers growing here from different Cultures in nz which is a concern to who will be runing our country in 20 yrs time are you?
ReplyDeleteThe more immigration the better (see my last post on 'Montesquieu and the Taniwha' - diversity can be celebrated, so long as we have the rule of law) ... You have a lot of expectations on getting your land back; great, however, that is no use to you without property rights, and via RMA, etc, they've in large part been expunged in New Zealand.
DeleteAgain, I advocate a constitutional minarchy: at simplest, the state (small s) provides the framework for rule of law, and that's it, no politicians needed. The constitution protects the smallest minority in a society, the individual, the rule of law polices the non-initiation of force principle, meaning, so long as they don't initiate force for fraud on any other individual or group, consenting adults can do whatever they like: the obligation in return is self responsibility and self reliance (though with room for charity and compassion, which don't exist under the welfare state).
On this basis, there can be no racism, no sexism, no bullying: we would all be free, and immigration is irrelevant as we each control our own lives. Currently the biggest abuser of my liberty is the state in what has become a Gulag of Forced Altruism: the founding fathers of America didn't wage a revolution for that.
Great talking to you all the best to what you are trying to achive what more can i say my job is to teach what i was taught to our next genirations so we dont lose what we have lost alot of in pass and to be proud of being maori. Today I hope to think that as Maori we are one people now more so then ever then spilt tribes An as for the Maori Parties when they stop fighting each other then maybe they mite start working together tall order
ReplyDeleteYeah, well you'll be waiting a long time like me then :) Cheers.
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