Friday, November 30, 2012

Israel, Palestine and Fascism in Europe …McCully Not an ‘Arse’ on this one.



One of the blogs I follow is Carrie Stoddart’s Ellipsister on Whatever. I always find Carrie’s posts interesting, but we don’t agree on much, and certainly not her latest regarding the current conflagration between Israel and Palestine. I simply post below my comment to Carrie’s thread.


Every Israeli rocket has attempted as best they are able to target Hamas terrorists; every Hamas rocket has deliberately targeted Israeli civilians, and has deliberately been fired behind the shield of their own civilians so they can use a body count of their own in their politick. The below cartoon is accurate, and that's beyond cynical.



Israel is surrounded by nations that want to wipe it from the map: Israelis are entitled to defend themselves.

There's a concept known as methodological individualism: every act is ultimately carried out by individuals. Those who want peace are rational people, because peace is a-priori for civilised living: but on that count, how does a reasoned ethic negotiate with a parent who will honour-murder their daughter with acid because she looked at a boy? How does a nation reason with a hatred so strong as Hamas has, that they would use the tactics explained at the start of this comment?

When someone can reconcile those points for me, I'll start listening. Because, yes, Palestine deserves a nation-state, their people deserve peace: we all do. But those they elect must start thinking, rather than emoting with their rockets, because they won't have peace, until Israelis are given peace, and history has taught Israelis that in the margin for error there are sadly only the graves of Jews. And with a far right politician in Hungary standing up in the Hungarian parliament only this week, demanding a written register of Jews be made in that country, the Israelis are vindicated in the fears they have for their lives, always, because thanks to the new surveillance states born of Keynesian socialism, fascism marches again in the world.

Update One:

 Dear Israel, this is not helpful.

Also the discussion between Carrie and I on her thread, the first nine comments, contains information of note for either side of this debate, as well as some points on what constitutes racism. (Link first paragraph above).

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